μœ„ν‚€λ¦¬ν¬μŠ€ 원문


λ°œμ‹ : tara.mcguinness@gmail.com

μˆ˜μ‹ :Β  john.podesta@gmail.com (힐러리 클린턴 λŒ€μ„  캠패인 μ„ λŒ€μœ„μ›μž₯ μ‘΄ ν¬λ°μŠ€νƒ€)

λ‚ μ§œ: 2012-02-11 13:19

제λͺ©: RE: κ°€ν†¨λ¦­μ˜ 봄을 μ—΄ 수 μžˆμ„μ§€? 생각 쀑…

μ–΄μ œ λΈŒλ£¨ν‚ΉμŠ€ μ—°κ΅¬μ†Œ λ―ΈνŒ…μ— EJ와 ν•¨κ»˜ λ―ΈνŒ…μ— μ°Έμ„ν–ˆλŠ”λ° (주ꡐ의 고문도 ν•¨κ»˜ν•  μ˜ˆμ •μ΄μ—ˆμœΌλ‚˜ μ°Έμ„ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€) 이런 μ–˜κΈ°κ°€ 많이 λ‚˜μ™”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 비둝 가톨릭 κ΅νšŒλŠ” λ―Όμ£Όμ£Όμ˜κ°€ μ•„λ‹ˆλΌλŠ” 마이클 μ‰¬ν—Œμ˜ λ§μ—λŠ” λ™μ˜ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ, κ΅νšŒμ— μ†ν•œ 신도듀이 λ°©ν–₯을 μ •ν•˜λŠ” 것도 ν•œ 방법이라고 생각이 λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€ :)


μ‘°μ§€νƒ€μš΄ λŒ€ν•™κ΅μ˜ ν† λ§ˆμŠ€ μ‹ λΆ€κ°€ 정말 λ†€λΌμš΄ 톡계λ₯Ό μ œμ‹œν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ νƒœμ–΄λ‚œ 가톨릭 μ‹ μž 3λͺ… 쀑 1λͺ…이 ꡐ회λ₯Ό λ– λ‚œλ‹€κ³  ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ§Œμ•½ μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ λ– λ‚œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ λ”°λ‘œ λ‚˜μ™€μ„œ ꡐ회λ₯Ό λ§Œλ“ λ‹€λ©΄, λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ μ„Έ 번째 손가락 μ•ˆμ— λ“œλŠ” 큰 κ΅νšŒκ°€ 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.


우리μͺ½ 가톨릭 μ„Έλ ₯이 뭐가 λΆ€μ‘±ν•œμ§€ μ•„μ‹­λ‹ˆκΉŒ? 깊고 μ§„μ§€ν•œ 신학적 사고가 λΆ€μ‘±ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이μͺ½ μ„Έλ ₯듀은 이념을 κ°œλ°œν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•˜κ³  λ‹¨μˆœν•œ 쑰직적 μ°¨μ›μ—μ„œ 머물러 μžˆμ„ λΏμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μš”μ¦˜ ꡐ회의 κ΅λ„κΆŒκ³Ό κ°€μž₯ 멀리 λ–¨μ–΄μ§„ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ λ°”λ‘œ 가톨릭 ν•™μžλ“€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.


μ–΄μ œ ν–‰μ‚¬μ—μ„œ λ¦¬λ²„λŸ΄ 가톨릭듀이 μ œμ‹œν–ˆλ˜ 섀득λ ₯ μžˆλŠ” 관점듀이 λͺ‡ 개 μžˆλŠ”λ°, 우리μͺ½ μ„Έλ ₯μ—κ²Œ 전달할 λ§Œν•˜λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.


------Original Message------

λ°œμ‹ : John Podesta

μˆ˜μ‹ : Sandy Newman

Cc: Tara McGuinness

제λͺ©: Re: κ°€ν†¨λ¦­μ˜ 봄을 μ—΄ 수 μžˆμ„μ§€? 생각 쀑…

λ‚ μ§œ: Feb 11, 2012 8:45 AM

μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ μˆœκ°„μ„ μœ„ν•΄ Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good을 μ‘°μ§ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ‹€λ§Œ ν˜„μž¬λŠ” κ·Έ 역할을 μˆ˜ν–‰ν•  리더십이 λΆ€μ‘±ν•˜λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. Catholics United μ—­μ‹œ λ§ˆμ°¬κ°€μ§€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ˜ λ΄„ μš΄λ™[Spring movements]처럼 λ°‘μ—μ„œλΆ€ν„° 움직여야 ν•  것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. Tara와 λ…Όμ˜ν•  μ˜ˆμ •μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. Kathleen Kennedy Twonsend와도 λ…Όμ˜ν•΄λ³Ό λ§Œν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.



On 2/10/12, Sandy Newman <sandynewman@gmail.com> wrote:

μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš” μ‘΄,

가톨릭 μ—¬μ„± 98%κ°€ ν”Όμž„ κ²½ν—˜μ΄ μžˆμŒμ—λ„ λΆˆκ΅¬ν•˜κ³  주ꡐ듀이 ν”Όμž„ λ³΄ν—˜ 보μž₯에 λ°˜λŒ€ν•˜λŠ” λͺ¨μŠ΅μ„ λ³΄λ‹ˆ κ°€ν†¨λ¦­μ˜ λ΄„[Catholic Spring]이 ν•„μš”ν•˜λ‹€λŠ” 생각이 λ“­λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이 μš΄λ™μ€ 가톨릭 μ‹ μžλ“€μ΄ 슀슀둜 ꡐ회의 쀑세식 λ…μž¬μ˜ 쒅결을 μš”κ΅¬ν•˜κ³ , ꡐ회 λ‚΄μ—μ„œ μ•½κ°„μ˜ λ―Όμ£Όμ£Όμ˜λΌλ„ μ΄μ‹ν•˜κ³  양성평등을 μ‹€ν˜„ν•˜λŠ” 것을 λͺ©ν‘œλ‘œ ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν”Όμž„ 보μž₯ 보μž₯ μ΄μŠˆκ°€ μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ λ³€ν™”μ˜ 촉맀가 될 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”? 주ꡐ듀은 λΆ„λͺ… 싸움을 지속할 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 가톨릭 병원 ν˜‘νšŒμ˜ 지지와 98%λΌλŠ” μˆ˜μΉ˜κ°€ 도움이 λ κΉŒμš”?

λ¬Όλ‘  μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 생각은 가톨릭 κ΅νšŒμ— λŒ€ν•œ 제 λΆ€μ‘±ν•œ 이해λ₯Ό λ“œλŸ¬λ‚Ό μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ΅νšŒλŠ” μˆ˜λ…€μ™€ μ‚¬μ œμ—κ²Œ 경제적 영ν–₯을 λ―ΈμΉ  수 μžˆλŠ” νž˜μ„ μ§€λ‹ˆκ³  μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 점도 κ³ λ €ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이 생각이 미친 생각이 μ•„λ‹ˆλ”λΌλ„, 이런 μš΄λ™μ— μ°Έμ—¬ν•  μžκ²©λ„ 없을 λΏλ”λŸ¬ 이 혁λͺ…μ˜ 씨앗을 심을 λ°©λ²•μ΄λ‚˜ λˆ„κ°€ 이λ₯Ό 심을 건지에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλŠ” μ „ν˜€ 생각해본 적이 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλƒ₯ 생각을 ν•΄λ³΄λŠ” μ€‘μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€β€¦

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From:tara.mcguinness@gmail.com

To:Β  john.podesta@gmail.com

Date: 2012-02-11 13:19

Subject: Re: opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing . . .


I did this thing at Brookings yesterday, with EJ (it was supposed also be with the bishops counsel but he bailed) and there was a lot of this.Β  Though I agree with michael sheehan who I think said that the catholic church is not a democracy, if people want that they can become congregationalists, where the people in the pews matter :)


Father thomas, from georgetown had one killer stat.Β  One out of every 3 americans born catholic, leaves the catholic church.Β  If that group of people formed one church it would be one of the largest (top 3) churches in the country.


You know what all our catholic groups are missing?Β  Deep serious theological thinking.Β  They are organizing vessels - not engines of ideas.Β  No one is more removed from heirarchy these days than the serious catholic scholars.


There were some other good observations yesterday from lib catholics that are worth making it back to our friends.

------Original Message------

From: John Podesta

To: Sandy Newman

Cc: Tara McGuinness

Subject: Re: opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing . . .

Sent: Feb 11, 2012 8:45 AM


We created Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good to organize for a

moment like this. But I think it lacks the leadership to do so now.

Likewise Catholics United. Like most Spring movements, I think this

one will have to be bottom up. I'll discuss with Tara.Β  Kathleen

Kennedy Townsend is the other person to consult.

On 2/10/12, Sandy Newman <sandynewman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, John,

>

> This whole controversy with the bishops opposing contraceptive coverage even

> though 98% of Catholic women (and their conjugal partners) have used

> contraception has me thinking . . .Β  There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in

> which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and

> the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the

> Catholic church. Is contraceptive coverage an issue around which that could

> happen.Β  The Bishops will undoubtedly continue the fight.Β  Does the Catholic

> Hospital Association support of the Administration's new policy, together

> with "the 98%"Β  create an opportunity?

>

> Of course, this idea may just reveal my total lack of understanding of the

> Catholic church, the economic power it can bring to bear against nuns and

> priests who count on it for their maintenance, etc. Even if the idea isn't

> crazy,Β  I don't qualify to be involved and I have not thought at all about

> how one would "plant the seeds of the revolution," or who would plant them.

> Just wondering . . .

>

> Hoping you're well, and getting to focus your time in the ways you want.

>

> Sandy

>

> Sandy Newman, President

> Voices for Progress

> 202.669.8754

> voicesforprogress.org

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