Just as the title says, this system is far worse then old void keys.

I have to farm the star chart, with my highly formad bazooka frames, and go trough tedious waves of enemies just with the slight chance of getting the relic I want. Out of the 20 Relics that are in the same table. 
Not only that you might as well end up with useless drops such as 15 endo or an random mod. 
How is this system any better then the void system? Atleast I could get my keys on demand and do the mission type on demand.

Now I have to do a low level farming chore, in the hopes of getting something I actually search for. And once I get the relic I need go trough another set of RNG, and to actually get some use out if it I need to sacrifice other relics to go trough another set of RNG traces. 
Way to decrease the grind! NOT. 

I think I finally understand Vaas now from Farcry



씨빨 좆같은 삼중 파밍! 예전이 더 낫다!! 글 올라옴





Whatever you say, man. I'll take this over two weeks of T4-Survival any day.


좆까 2주간 생4 도느니 성유물 까서 처먹겠음 ㅅㄱ



Honestly, its not worse... yet. But its getting close. In the old system if there was an item at 5% from rotation C in a survival, thats it, you're done. That's gonna be a brutal, painful farming process. Now, at least, we dont have to do slow survivals to get the relics. Hieracon is still a fast key per minute, and now some of the defense nodes are pretty good(and fast) for getting those relics. This also means more than one tileset to play. (I still cant play void survivals due to the painful process i went through farming volt prime systems, a looong time ago)


So we have a 7% chance to get the axi relic, and if we radshare it we have a 35% chance to get the item? Okay thats slightly lower than the 5% in the old system, but at least we are not stuck due to those 20 minute waits for rotation C. But... Like i said earlier, its getting close to the old system. Farming void traces, farming relics, and then running radshares felt more time consuming this PA than the last, and I expect for this trend to continue, in which case; this system may become equivalent or worse in terms of time than the previous system.



까말 구린건 아님. 아직은 말이지 ㅎㅎ 예전엔 로테 C에서 레어 드랍 확률이 좆같은 5% 한번 굴리고 끝이었음. 근데 지금은 지옥같은 방감생에서 고통받을 필요는 없어졌단 말이야. 명다발이나 x방 x방 이런데도 키파밍 조따 빠르고. 근데 이거 파밍 함 더해야 한단 소리긴 함 ㅋㅋ

(난 아직도 보이드 생존 못감 그 조옺-같은 기억 때문에)

그니까 드랍률 7%짜리 성유물 하나 처먹고, 빛유물 팟에서 35% 확률로 레어를 노린다? 이거 예전 5%보다 낮은 확률이지

물론 20분 동안 로테이션 C 기다리는 일은 안해서 다행이지만... 갈수록 예전이랑 다를게 없어진다. 

잔영물 캐고, 성유물 캐고, 빛유물팟 돌고..... 상황에 따라서 예전보다 나을 수도 구릴 수도 있는 시스템임




I have to agree. It takes a lot longer for me to get Prime stuff now.


동감, 평소보다 오래걸려 이거




it not perfect but it still good , i got ember prime and frost prime set in 2 day with relic , something i cant do in the old system


완벽하진 않긴 하지만 그래도 좋음... 나 성유물 캐서 2일만에 엠프/프프 만들었는데 이거 예전엔 못할 짓이었지



I'm getting so triggered by baseless whining it's not even funny anymore.


지겨운 징징이새끼들 웃기지도 않는다 이제

The old void key system was killing. the. game. Week after week, I watched friends just... not show up, because the prime part treadmill was poisoning the entire game for them. Since SotR, I've seen them come back, and enjoy the variety of missions being run.


예전 보이드키 방식은 게임을 씨발같이 만들었음... 시간이 갈수록 친구창이 비어가더라. 똑같은 미션만 뺑이치는 파밍에 지쳐서.

근데 성유물 이후로 다들 복귀해서 미션 여러가지를 즐기고 있지



I guess the there are two main problems in the system:

 

1) You have RNG to get the relics, RNG to get traces and then RNG to get the part you want.

2) Lots of players have the sensation that the drop rates seem much lower than expected. I did 11 radiant only runs for the Cernos Prime Lower Limb and didnt get it. If you think about the chance of this happening is extremely low! On my 11th run, I met a guy who was on his 13th run...

I think that the the ideal scenario would be to have the old and new system together somehow, having the best of the two worlds together.


내가 봤을때 성유물은 두가지 문제가 있음.


1) 좆같은 성유물  캐기, 좆같은 잔영물 캐기, 좆같은 유물을 까야 니가 원하는걸 처먹음

2) 다들 드랍률이 낮아졌다고 느끼는중. 난 세프 로워림 하나 먹겠다고 빛유물 11개나 깠는데 못먹었고. 이럴 확률 존나 낮지... 

그와중에 13판 돌아서 못처먹은넘도 만남... 


내 생각엔 신구 시스템 짬뽕해야함 ㄹㅇ


New system is better, get over it.


꺼져 지금이 나음



Compared to my 47 T3 Survival rotation c for an ash chassis, Or the 30 T3 MD for trinity when she came out (All keys which i had to farm for aswell), yea the new system is much better.


빛유물11개 쓴넘에게 / 

내가 애프 섀시 먹겠다고 생3 47번이나 돌았는데? 트프 먹겠다고 모방3 30번이나 돌았는데? 당연히 키는 따로 파밍한거고

지금이 더 나아...



And here we have the difference. Beforehand you had:

+ Stockpiles of keys

- Rewards changed

+ You kept the huge amount of keys

- Cells, Cores, Forma BPs


장단점 구분해본다. 

예전

+ 키 그대로 (새 프라임 나와도 키는 그대로란 소리)

- 보상은 바뀜

+ 키 존나 쌓아두기 가능

- 오로킨셀 / 퓨전코어 / 포르마 설계도 


Now:

- Cant Stockpiles of Relics

+ Rewards dont change

- You have to farm new Relics

+ No Cores, Cells... Forma is still there thought

The negative just changed places


지금

- 성유물 미리 쌓아두기 불가능

+ 그래도 보상은 그대로 (단종돼도 무관)

- 신규 성유물은 따로 파밍해야함

+ 오로셀도 없고 퓨코도 없음... 포르마는 아직 있지만 ㅎ


걍 장단점이 바뀐거 뿐임


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